Thursday, June 26, 2014

Dumbest thing.

Alright. I know this is a hot-button issue for most people, especially where I live. But I'm not trying to argue anything today. I'm not trying to fight for what I have concluded in my mind to be right.

But I have been thinking, because of recent events, about gay marriage.

I know, I know. But it's not so much about the issue itself, as it is about all the dumb things I've heard said about it. On either side. Many young people for gay marriage say to "get with the times" and that is about the dumbest reason I can think of to be behind something. Don't just go with the crowd for any reason, much less for a social justice reason. For many old people against it, "it's unnatural". Well, who are you to say whether it is or not? You aren't gay. And, if you want to go by science, there are many species that practice homophilia. Just sayin'.

These are just two of the millions of examples of stupidity on either side. But I have to say that the dumbest thing I've ever heard was from an opponent of gay marriage. I'm always open to hearing reasons behind an argument. I try to be agnostic (for lack of a better word) about hot-button issues because there is a reason there is no clear answer. Usually.

But anyway, a conversation I was having with this person turned to a gay relative of hers and the frivolous reasons she thought this person could not actually be gay. I don't know. I honestly don't know if her relative is truly gar or not, why she would identify herself that way, or anything else. However, this person's argument was that her relative always used to get into trouble with boys. She was boy-crazy, so there was no way her relative could be gay.

Well...you can't view it so plainly. Perhaps she got into trouble with boys because she was trying to get herself to like them. Perhaps she was experimenting. Perhaps she really isn't gay, but you can't use that as evidence. It's not even circumstantial, it's an absolute nonsensical way to support an irrational conclusion.

But that wasn't the dumb thing. As the "conversation", and I use that term lightly since I had no interest in entertaining these absurdities (and this person always thinks she's right about everything), continued into a gay rights area, she then blurted out: "We're just asking them not to have sex."

I had to facepalm myself in my mind. Absolutely NOT, in any way, is that what you're asking them not to do. And who is "we're"? I'm very openly for gay rights, so I'm not "we're".

I digress, to say something like "We're just asking them not to have sex.", you have to first assume that marriage is just about sex. Being a, I presume, good mormon girl your whole life, I can see where you might think marriage is all about sex. That's all you ever hear about when it comes to marriage is that it's sacred and you get to have sex.

So yes, I can see where that comes from, but I have to disagree. Marriage, at least my marriage, was out of love, out of necessity. Because I needed this man in my life. I couldn't imagine being without him. I felt something for him that I hadn't felt about another person, not even my family. No offense, it's just a different kind of love.

So maybe marriage has only been about sex for you, but for the rest of us, it's about love. So no, you're not just asking them not to have sex. Besides that, I can assume that most of them are already having sex. Most people are already having sex before marriage (not condoning or bashing this, I am not the right person to do that). So making them unable to get married just means they aren't married, not that they're not having sex.

Honestly, I can't remember why I didn't argue with her. Maybe it was because I was tired. Maybe I wanted to be civil. Maybe I thought she was beyond reasoning, and she can be, but she's smart. She's a very intelligent person otherwise. But I think I'm glad I didn't. That is a hole in which you can only dig yourself deeper.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I also think about all those people who bring up that one gay mormon guy who says he chose it or whatever. Or that other one who is gay but remains married to his wife. Good for him. Good for his wife...I guess? I'd hate to be his wife, personally, but whatever. Anyway, my point is that is 1 or 2 of every 1 in 10 people who is gay. That is a very small minority. It's like when I saw a fitness instructor on the internet who has PKD. She says I have PKD and I don't use excuses. Well, that's good for her, but PKD is different for everyone. Some peoples' kidneys are too big to be doing crunches without popping a few - and that is excruciating. Some people are dead by her age. People have different sizes and number of cysts.

Anyway, an afterthought, if you will.

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